Unfortunately, negative things were usually written. But the raid also was traumatizing, turning the childrens strictly structured lives into chaos and proving Warren Jeffswarning that the rest of the world wanted to persecute and ruin the church. The evidence is suppressed, the state of Arizona regards the raid at the present time, as "unlawful." How to get help:If you or someone you know has been sexually abused, text HOME to the Crisis Text Line at 741741 for free and confidential support. Haryadoon (talk) 22:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC), This article looks awfully like a copy paste from news media Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.88.130 (talk) 06:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC), This article has been edited carefully by many good wiki members over a period of time. Cheers.cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 01:34, 1 March 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. "I had never seen anything like that. Additionally the word "Unlawful" appears on the "Counter-Stipulation" of the defense, that Prosecutor Matt Smith signed without comment. Then in 2011, he was sentenced to life in prison. They could reportedly wear clothes with pastel shades. The man who still contends that he is leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saintswillbe eligible for parole on July 22, 2038, according to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. I felt like I was, somehow I had done something wrong from that early memory, Roy Jeffs said. He left behind an estimated 75 widows and 65 children. "I didnt know if Id ever see him again. I have just modified 8 external links on YFZ Ranch. January 2017:'Sister Wives' polygamous family turned away at Supreme Court January 2017:FLDS food-stamp fraud defendants enter guilty pleas. I lived in a bubble.". Knowing how many members the secretive polygamist Mormon sect has and exactly how many people have left is difficult. Eventually, he and his followers relocated to Eldorado, Texas, where they built the Yearning for Zion (YFZ) Ranch. People need to be careful and watch out for someone like him, who only had his own interests in mind.". Greenw47 (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC), Also, if anybody is interested in developing a timeline, I'm not the best at that. --Cosmic Latte (talk) 08:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC), The un-sourced sections on the conditions the mothers and children are kept in and the letter to President Bush are being deleted. In 2007, Jeffs tried to hang himself in a Utah jail. Red-haired Merrianne, now about 24 years old and not able to be contacted for this story,lived in foster care for a year but never asked Dusek to take her home. Join the news democracyWhere your votes decide the Top 100. All rights reserved. A call suddenly came into the San Angelo domestic abuse hotline. But it is the only one with a compound that Texas authorities raided April 4, 2008, taking 437 children into state custodyafter the Texas police received a tip claiming sexual abuse within the isolated religious sect. but until this is something which is actually proven, its just noise in the media machine. 4:30 ELDORADO, Texas Until he was about 10, life had been good to Roy Jeffs, son of the president and prophet of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Greenw47 (talk) 14:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC), Iteresting how this discussion about the timeliness of news and the update process has degenerated into a discussion about racism. "Absolutely disturbed by Keep Sweet Pray and Obey on Netflix. Subjective judgments like "flimsy and false ground" are being inferred from an article that contains no such language, therefore bordering on original research. But I had a great work ethic. His father wouldn't be in prison without it. I hope people understand they have the freedom to get out from under his control so that they can live their own lives. The Yearning for Zion Ranch, or the YFZ Ranch,[1] was a 1,700-acre Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints community of as many as 700 people, located near Eldorado in Schleicher County, Texas, United States. Haryadoon (talk) 22:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC), http://kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=8192184 Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.42.176.201 (talk) 15:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC), I made a note about this in the article. Known for marrying teenage girls to older men and taking underage females as his own wives, the Prophet of the church has been convicted on counts of sexual assault of a child. In 2006,Pawel Gula and Tom Elliott began producing a documentary that investigated the practice of plural message. The correct term is 'Department of Family and Protective Services.' )That evidence obtained thereby (be) suppressed (and) 3.) There is simply nothing in the documents you link where the Judge (who is the only one who counts in the case)says the raid was "unlawful." During his time in prison, Jeffsattempted to die by suicidein a Utah jail in 2007. There were some positive things, but it was usually about something Ive done wrong.". Sept. 6:Ex-teen bride wins $16 million case against FLDS Aug. 3:Ex-FLDS women, girls learn how to stand up to sexual violence. He had been put on trial in 2007 in St. George, Utah, but the Utah Supreme Court reversed his conviction, and he faced charges in Arizona that ultimately were dismissed. authorities raided the YFZ Ranch and temple, where . Jeffs is serving time at Louis C. Powledge Unit, a prison in Palestine, Texas. The succession of court motions and orders is quite simple. The defense, not the prosecution, authors another stipulation that directs ACCEPTANCE of the aforementioned motion. And, of course, I had a great mom. Jeffson said he was separated from his mother for six weeks. Zion also had secret rooms specially built for Warren Jeffs. Adopting the stipulation adopts the motion, you're equivocating Ron. Rulon Jeffs passed away in 2002 at age 92. - again, this seems to be just unproven allegations. However, she did ask Dusek to get permission from the judge for her to go with her foster family to Tennessee for Thanksgiving and to jump on the trampoline in a neighbors yard. Ron, you are merely making declaratory statements. Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey is streaming on Netflix now. Rulon Jeffs passed away in 2002 at age 92. Blossomonte (talk) 10:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC). In 2008, the world learned about a secretive polygamous sect inside the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I was just so enthralled with the idea of going 40 miles an hour. The YFZ Ranch is a 1,691-acre tract with space enough for a self-sustaining community and an orchard filled with trees of apples, peaches and pears. I propose that for the reasons listed there, that the article be merged to this one, just like was done with Swinton. The prosecution agrees to language without objection terming the raid "unlawful." Sign up for our new free Indy100 weekly newsletter. Click the upvote icon at the top of the page to help raise this article through the indy100 rankings. Sister Wives Season 18: 3 Bold Predictions, Love Island USA Season 5 Cast: Meet the Women, Sister Wives: Meri Brown Attends Gwendlyn Browns Wedding Despite Family Feud. ", Musser posted alongside an image of her and Natalia: "Watching @netflix Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey with my daughter, Natalia. Jeffs, the fugitive leader of a polygamist Mormon sect, was arrested by a Nevada Highway Patrol trooper during a traffic stop. "But it was a great script, and what interested me most was this study of how power can so completely destroy someone's moral equilibrium. Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugh McBryde (talk contribs) 20:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC), As I said, the documents you link contain no stipulation by Matt Smith that the raid was "unlawful." Maybe it's just all in my head, but it kind of seems like the news media have been using the word "compound" to express the idea that these FLDS people are the same kinds of crazies as the ones in the Branch Davidian compound. Somebody has been removing edits on the recent event that the pregnant mothers who were removed because they appeared to be underage have now been determined by CPS to be adults after their babies were born. Since CPS considered the children to be residents of a single household, all the children had to be removed. The Judge made no negative comment as to content in the motion. So far, FLDS statements that there have been no underage marriage or sexual contact have not been proven to be incorrect, and most CPS beliefs, assumptions and actions have ranged from incorrect to leading to comparisons with concentration camps and inhumane treatment. We didnt have those things.". That person also removed the number of people housed at the ranch, and information about deaths, poisonings, rapes and pregnancies of children under the care of CPS. Isaac Jeffs' decision to leave was captured in an Aug. 28 episode of A&E Networks' Escaping Polygamy. The Raid on YFZ Ranch, Ten Years Later A decade after the largest custody battle in U.S. history, some of those involved speak about their memories. NPOV does not require both sides to appear equally good. focuses on the clear and intentional demarcation of this community's physical space from that of other communities, as opposed to the community of people that occupies that space. No sources and worse, tracing reveals FLDS members placed them.Scryer_360 (talk) 01:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC), I've added the "conspiracy theory" template message. He promised the matriarch he would stay with his sister. Steven Conn defined which motion of the defense which I later cite in this paragraph on (2/1/10). Her case was a major factor in Warren Jeffslife sentence. Anybody can throw some slander out there. Stick to the point, please. It was uncertain, Raymond Jeffs said. "Women here are told that the children don't belong to them they belong to the priested men. He left behind an estimated 75 widows and 65 children. This is certainly relevant if the job of CPS is to remove children from a dangerous situation to a safer one. The problem with stating the raid was "unlawful" is that those words are wholly unfactual. The server does not record how many users saw one of those 7 versions, nor could it have distinguished any of them that that recorded a version on a hard drive, or served it from another site. But 41 out of 416 children, is that so out of the ordinary of the US population? Greenw47 (talk) 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC), The problem with sections like this is that they get stale as news reporting tapers off -- it's no longer "news". The events described in this section appear not to have been updated for quite some time. In 2009 a judge ordered he be force fed as a result. I was told this was a request for comments from experts in the legal field. The latter part of the docuseries discloses the truth about Zion, which was known as the most sacred place, heaven on Earth, the holiest of places, to the cult members. PeterRRobinson (talk) 02:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)]. TheFundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is not the only Mormon denomination that believes in plural marriage, which polygamists call celestial marriage. In this case the requested relief was suppression. Evidence collected in the raid included audio tapes of Warren Jeffs having sex with several underage girls, and those tapes helped a San Angelo, Texas, jury sentence Warren Jeffs to life in prison for sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl and a 15-year-old girl that he claimed were his spiritual wives. I don't think it's relevant. As it happens, i have a personality that is soothed rather than ruffled by playing Laocon to the history's serpent, and i am therefore undertaking the task of repairing the deviations from the principles for which i am here advocating. You're claiming that because the stipulation was adopted, it was the only thing adopted. Warren Jeffs had 78 wives at the time of his arrest. The document you posted speaks for itself. "I want to create my own story, my own path. Raymond Jeffs was one of the children removed from the compound 10 years ago. I had seen some of the Texas trial evidence and kind of brushed it off as fabrication, Roy Jeffs said. So, without further delay, let's jump right in and find out all about Zion and what happened there. If that motion is adopted, it is the opinion (that rules in Arizona) that the raid was "unlawful." In any less controversial area of a less controversial article, I'd just go ahead and delete it. Preceding unsigned comment added by Plantfood (talk contribs) 05:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC), True, there is a problem, but the solution is not to separate the raid from the rest of the article. Cheers.InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:37, 30 December 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]. I understand they issued a report in December 08, but I cannot find it. Therefore, Warren Jeffs had complete control over the women of Zion. Taking to Instagram after the release of Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey on Netflix, Musser shared what it was like to watch the series with her 14-year-old daughter, Natalia, writing: "The reality of what her life could have been vs. what her life is now is one of the greatest gifts and accomplishments of my life. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. I highly recommend using words that accurately represent the facts in place of the word "believe", wherever possible. These are evidently the same two "pregnant teens" cited as proof that underage women were bearing children. How does a prosecutor also sign such documents without comment and not in so doing, give tacit approval to such language? Haryadoon (talk) 08:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC), Where is the CPS side of the story reported? I think we should change 'CPS' to 'DFPS' globally with a short explanation at the beginning of the article on the common use of 'CPS' in the media. You're trying to get the name of the underlying motion into the record for the very purpose that you're trying to make the case that somehow the raid was "unlawful." In an interview with TV Guide Magazine, Goldwyn was asked what made him want to play "the role of apolygamist, misogynist and rapist who's currently serving life in prison for the sexual assault of minors?". The entries are constructed to give the impression that a child, who may still be a child, was the victim. These are the literal words used agreed to by Defendant, Prosecutor and Judge. The YFZ Ranch is a 1,691-acre tract with space enough for a self-sustaining community and an orchard filled with trees of apples, peaches and pears. If the defendants of YFZ convicted already in Texas were tried in Arizona for something, none of the evidence from YFZ would be used there, in all likelihood. I hope Jerzy will leave my comments alone.). That is bias on your part. As Fundamentalist Mormons, women in the community were raised to believe they must serve their husbands and obey all commands without complaints. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. In 2011 he was put into an induced coma after excessive fasting. Found in the YFZ temple vault were audio tapes of Warren Jeffs raping the preteen just weeks after her 12th birthdayas well as Warren Jeffs having a group sex session with at least a dozen underage girls, Dusek said. Throughout the documentary, many women speak about the harsh circumstances they faced in the community, how they survived, and how Jeffs eventually faced conviction for his crimes. Warren Jeffs had not banned Internet use yet but Roy Jeffs said it was closely monitored before the raid and very few people would have had phones with Internet access. The call actually came from a 33-year-old woman living in Colorado Springs. The defense and prosecution then sign that stipulation. 'The children were to be returned to their families in 10 days' This was certainly stated as fact by the media but I believe it is inaccurate. Filmmakers had ample material to work with in telling the story of the FLDS under Warren Jeffs. Please take a moment to review my edit. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Without closure, readers are left wondering Can we assume the situation has changed? (Photo by Washington County Sheriff via Getty Images). ", If the children were at no risk of physical harm, and if FLDS is truthful that there are no underage rapes or pregnancies, then CPS is putting children into a more risky situation. By signing up, you will receive newsletters and promotional content and agree to our. "We didnt really know who many of the children were or who their parents or alleged parents were, and CPS was dealing with political pressure because the case was extraordinarily expensive for the State of Texas, Dusek said. Texas changed its law last year to prohibit a person younger than 18 from getting married without a judge's consent. Jeffsons grandfather, Rulon T. Jeffs, took power in 1986 and ruled until his death in 2002 at age 92. Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune These aerial views of the YFZ (Yearning for Zion) Ranch outside of Eldorado, Texas, were taken on Tuesday, April 8, 2008, just days after law enforcement officers raided the FLDS compound.
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